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  • Disclaimer: This is an old rant i made a year ago it has many flaws with it usually because Far Cry 4 was forgettable and i tried to remember the story only to turn up with some misinfomation i'm currently making an improved rant. Part 2 3 and 4 are in the comments section. I purchased Far Cry 4 kyrat edition last year while i had found some enjoyment in the latest installment i have problems with this game lots of problems. While the game wasn't bad or great i hate it's characters plotholes and so on here's this rant i have been making since last year.But of course this all MY opinion for those who think it's not a good idea of me to criticize the game that they like and i'm not asking you to care you have your own opinions and they matter.

    1) One of the biggest complaints i have is the characters they're illogical and poorly made here's why. I'm going to start off with Noore.Why do i have a problem with her it's one of Pagan's tranmissions to Ajay. According to Pagan she was a doctor visiting to kyrat while visiting she reported a human rights violation to him and his regime Pagan offered dinner with her and told her she can bring her entire family she accepted Pagan's offer.Is anybody seeing my problem here? if you say her decision was stupid and you're absolutely right this is illogical she literally cause the death of her family because she accepted someone's offer that she reported a human rights violation now there might be a journal that explains why she accepted it but i rarely ever came across them but imagine this.You reported human rights to Kim Jong-Un and he offers you dinner with him a real person WOULD DECLINE THE DAMN OFFER and she is one of the two characters i hate.

    The next character is oh god Amata there are multiple reasons why i hate this character.Number one is that according the 101 trailer her intentions are to bring kyrat into the 21st century winch is good but in the fullly released game her intentions are turn kyrat into a drug state now that was fucking false advertising there i would have killed myself because of that but lucky i didn't winch comes to number two.Her intentions are awful yep it makes her look like an antagonist even know she is one of the protagonists if you decide choose her i don't know why you would do that in her ending in Tirtha she is taking children to work on the fields for opium without their parents permission winch is slavery at this point you would have killed her for wasting your time liberating kyrat she is one of two characters i hate and what a coincidence the two characters i hate are women and three she is not a female strong lead is just a cutout and dull and i can compare her to Furiosa who is a female strong lead.

    There is nothing more to talk about the characters Sabal suffers from bipolar disorder. The two stereotypes Willis and Hurk.Hurk being the redneck white trash american while Wills being the patriot american and the reason i did this because it will take forever.

    2) My next complaint is the plotholes and plot twists and and the first plotholes comes in the opening Why did they stop the bus? seriously why? NOT EXPLAINED! don't tell me that Pagan knows that Ajay was coming because he only recongizes Ajay later oh god so confusing.And who the fuck is Plus-one yeah i know his real name but i'm not going to do that we know that he's a spy for the Golden Path but why? how? Ajay doesn't barely know this is now really confusing. And why does Pagan who is rich doesn't equip his military with tanks and jets? they are the most poorest and poorly equipped military i have ever seen they only have pickup trucks, helicopters(not attack helicopters but more like police helicopters), 4 seat civilain planes, and body armour if Pagan did better equipped his military The Golden Path would have been wiped out.Willis's mission are just filler we don't learn anything and Ajay doesn't mention it at least thats what i remember and the plot twists if you choose either Sabal or Amata in their endings they backstab Ajay and that cliche again where the good guys are the bad guys and it's unnecesary.

    3) This is my last complaint since this is taking forever it's the map now way before the kyrat edition trailer i was so hyped for this game i checked the news sources and one of them was about the map and the developers said that it was the same size as Far Cry 3's and denser i watched a trailer before the kyrat edition trailer and i saw the map it looked they took the entire map of Far Cry 3 and added trees lakes and snowy mountains and yes i'm dead fucking serious but when the kyrat edition trailer was released  someone commented that it looked smaller than Far Cry 3's and i do agree with them it looks like bathtub! oh those snowy mountains yeah only in missions and after you don't access those places again.

    That was it i didn't want it to be too long but i will update this with more bitching and more reasons why i have problems i hope Alex or Ubisoft sees this rant i have made so i can get a fucking refund but i'm keeping the game!.

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    • Well that was taking forever.

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    • Yup! true enough!

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    • Go make a better game, then. :^)

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    • UPDATE:I got a little more to rant about

      1)Gameplay.Since the story was a wasted concept by poorly put together characters. What about gameplay i can tell you one thing it felt like playing Far Cry 3 for the first time.It was just a rehash from Far Cry 3 hell they even reuse plot points from Far Cry 3 like the drugs and the hallucination worlds.So why was it so difficult to make something unique and new? or fuck better characters!. I will tell you what's new in Far Cry 4. Eleplants and Snowmobiles that's it and after all the snow missions are completed you don't go back to the mountains again so those Snowmoblies only accessable by the map editor. God even the factions aren't new even The Royal Army have the same colours from previous Far Cry games such as The APR and The Golden Path the UFLL.

      2)Scarce information. I talked about this one in part one it's basically a Developer,Author,Director puts something into the plot that doesn't make any sense or is put there for no apparent reason.This will leave the Auidence,Player,Viewer,Reader, asking questions and creating plotholes .I will tell you some things in Far Cry 4 that are kept in the dark.Why did they stop the bus?,Who is Plus One? (i'm not going to calling his real name),Why did Noore accepted Pagan's offer?,Why does no one question Amata?,Why does Pagan not better equip his military?(tanks jets etc.) and most important of all Is there any internet in Kyrat?.All of them NOT EXPLAINED it might work for the mystery genre like FNAF but this is in the action genre.Information should not be always kept in the darkness it is okay to keep some of the info in the dark but NOT ALWAYS this creates plot holes some of them i mention are plot holes.

      Aright that's all i got for tonight and it was shorter this time.

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    • Raniero R wrote:
      Go make a better game, then. :^)


      How about you dev a masterpiece since you supposedly know more than we do?

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    • I'd rather do that instead of bitch on the internet :^)

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    • Such as when you wrote this?

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    • Exactly.

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    • Alright this is just a minor update i'm going to talk about the characters again. So what are the likeable and unlikeable memeorable and forgettable characters really there is just one but let's count shall we?

      Sabal: He only has two emotions enthusiastic and anger or just plain emotionless. Mostly he's yelling at top of his voice a few seconds of that the player would want to rip the voice box out this guy why does he have fits? again NOT EXPLAINED! so he's just unlikeable.

      Amata: What can i say about Amata? her intentions are clear and her after cutscene my god.She is instantly unlikeable just this point the player he/she would kill her at this point.

      Ajay:Nothing to say about Ajay he is just boring. He's also an asshole when those two living in the Ghale homestead yes i forgot their names but you know what i'm talking about.After he throwed and survives the arena he meets Noore for the the first time he blames her for trying to kill him when it's actually those two one of them even betted against him unlikeable and almost forgettable but at least he had a backstory for once.

      Noore:After her decision she's not likeable any real person is smart enough to know that you should not accept someone's offer when you report a human rights violation to them.

      Bhadra:Finally it's time i talked about Bhadra. I get that Ubisoft tried to create a emotional relationship(not romantic) with her winch is done poorly you rarely ever see her in just in a few cutscenes and she disappears that's it we rarely know her. What's her backstory? When did she met Amata? What happens to her even when she becomes the Tarun Mataura?. Nothing yet again the player isn't given a explanation my best guess is that she is tormenting some slave out there Far Cry 2 had better emotional relationship than this for example when Paul died at the bar i wanted revenage for the APR i'm dead serious about one.

      Paul Harmon: Just a reskinned verison of Jack Carver and The Jackal combined. Hell he even speaks like The Jackal and again the player doesn't rarely know him its becoming a pattern now.

      Gang "Pagan Min: What can i explain about Pagan?. He has a good backstory a good explanation why he's doing this with a charming personality.He is only memorable character in this game.

      So what how many memorable and likeable characters where there?: 1. How many unlikeable and forgettable characters?: Six yep six......What the fuck where they thinking?! Of course there are more characters that unlikeable and forgettable like Plus-one Hurk and Willis but this just shows they didn't any effort into the plot and characters Far Cry 3 had better characters and better plot than  this since this series started in 2004 and its been a decade Far Cry 1 is better than Far Cry 4 it just makes me and you wonder that Ubisoft is running out of ideas if Far Cry 5 is in works i hope that doesn't copy and rehash what Far Cry 3 did just exactly what Far Cry 4 did But will say this.   Far Cry 4 is the worst installment in the series even know it wasn't bad nor great it is the worst in the series so Troy baker i hope you're glad that your character wasn't butched nor unlikeable you did do a stunning preformance.

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    • Raniero R wrote:
      Go make a better game, then. :^)

      Yeah i would have made a better game than Far Cry 4.

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    • Far Cry 4 was just a letdown, it was lazy and reskinned copy of Far Cry 3 i think Alex Hutchison was the one to blame here i do faintly remember one interview with possibly OutsideXbox and i think this what he said but let me rephrase i faintly remember i wish i could find the video where he was interviewed.

      ''I wanted to continue with Jason Brody but Patrick said No don't do that! find somewhere where i can ride a eleplant!.

      I think that's what he said i can't remember what name he said. I dunno maybe i have to go and surf youtube for something that may not exist anymore i will edit this when i (out of pure luck) do find it winch i won't.But at least i know why the gameplay was so similar to Far Cry 3 i'm glad that Far Cry 5 wasn't annouced this year but i do think it's coming next year oh god.

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    • Raniero R wrote:
      Go make a better game, then. :^)

      This is a blog post, blogs are for opinions, and you're allowed to have opinions when it comes to a piece of media. Ubisoft is a major company, none of the opinions anyone's going to possibly write on here or anywhere else online are going to make anyone there cry. Chill.

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    • Echoh98 wrote:
      Raniero R wrote:
      Go make a better game, then. :^)
      This is a blog post, blogs are for opinions, and you're allowed to have opinions when it comes to a piece of media. Ubisoft is a major company, none of the opinions anyone's going to possibly write on here or anywhere else online are going to make anyone there cry. Chill.

      I think he was just joking but i have would made better game than this pile of shit known as Far Cry 4.

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    • Alright final update yep this is the last, there's nothing to talk about Far Cry 4 anymore here's a basic run down.

      Awful characters,Bland story,Things in the story that doesn't make sense,Same gameplay as Far Cry 3 with 2 new things added,Rehash of story points like drugs from Far Cry 3.

      That's it and really no one cares about Far Cry 4 anymore it's been out for a year and it was a disapointment there would be no Far Cry 5 ever it's already dead.

      One final note on Amata and Noore there awful portrayals of women now i'm not a feminist i'm not using this was an excuse either but what Amata's intentions where and what Noore did in the past just offends me.

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    • Ok i know the guy's name is Alex not Dave i'm sorry i got his name wrong i will edit the updates to avoid confusion. But there's a question i need to ask to Alex WHAT THE FUCK WENT WRONG WITH THIS GAME?!, You where the creative director and Far Cry 4 was a lazy rehash of Far Cry 3 with a bland story that was a good concept from the begining to a waste with horribly done characters that are unlikeable and forgettable have also played other Far Cry games? than just Far Cry 3?. Far Cry is dead alright i doubt there will be a Far Cry 5 in the works without being a rehash of Far Cry 3.

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    • Because idjits like you buy games expecting them to be totally different despite not needing to fix what isn't broken lol.

      Go spend 7 years getting a programmers degree and make a game, then make a sequel completely different to please butthurt kids like you.

      >:^)

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    • Raniero R wrote:
      Because idjits like you buy games expecting them to be totally different despite not needing to fix what isn't broken lol.

      Go spend 7 years getting a programmers degree and make a game, then make a sequel completely different to please butthurt kids like you.

      >:^)

      Once again, you're allowed to critique a piece of media, especially if you're paying for it. Ubisoft has many employees, and would've had no trouble altering the game instead of rereleasing a game with basically the same mechanics as the previous release. Also, who spends seven years on a programming degree and only knows how to make the same thing over and over again?

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    • Echoh98 wrote:
      Raniero R wrote:
      Because idjits like you buy games expecting them to be totally different despite not needing to fix what isn't broken lol.

      Go spend 7 years getting a programmers degree and make a game, then make a sequel completely different to please butthurt kids like you.

      >:^)

      Once again, you're allowed to critique a piece of media, especially if you're paying for it. Ubisoft has many employees, and would've had no trouble altering the game instead of rereleasing a game with basically the same mechanics as the previous release. Also, who spends seven years on a programming degree and only knows how to make the same thing over and over again?

      I completey facepalmed at his/her reply clearly Raniero R hasn't read my entire first part of my rant i also said that this was MY OPINION. There's something called Constructive Criticism yes i was raging because i was pissed that was lied to and people expect video games to be different from the previous installment or completely different, GTA 5 was different than GTA 4 and what if GTA 5 was the same was GTA 4? people would complaint like SR3 and SR4 people prefer mostly the original because SR3 and SR4 are the same game but with completely different stories haven't you even played Far Cry 4? Raniero? or even Far Cry 3? and didn't Echoh98 said that this is a blog post? that blogs are for opinions? and yet i agree with her and also, i didn't remember saying anything was broken in the game it just runs fine with some glitches not entirely broken and glitchly.

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    • Go write a story with a plot similar to farcry 4, without reusing too much stuff from farcry 4, make it long enough to fill a campaign and lots of side stuff, and report back to us.

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    • Raniero R wrote: Because idjits like you buy games expecting them to be totally different despite not needing to fix what isn't broken lol.

      Go spend 7 years getting a programmers degree and make a game, then make a sequel completely different to please butthurt kids like you.

      >:^)

      And if I had a “programmers degree” as you call it, and hundreds of employees then yeah, I think making a completely different sequel would be easy.

      Please be quiet. We're not asking for them to fix what isn't broken. We're asking for them to make something new for once.

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    • QWTF spy wrote: Ok i know the guy's name is Alex not Dave i'm sorry i got his name wrong i will edit the updates to avoid confusion. But there's a question i need to ask to Alex WHAT THE FUCK WENT WRONG WITH THIS GAME?!, You where the creative director and Far Cry 4 was a lazy rehash of Far Cry 3 with a bland story that was a good concept from the begining to a waste with horribly done characters that are unlikeable and forgettable have also played other Far Cry games? than just Far Cry 3?. Far Cry is dead alright i doubt there will be a Far Cry 5 in the works without being a rehash of Far Cry 3.

      I think the reason I like far cry 4 is because I never played 3.

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    • 104.219.96.173 wrote:

      QWTF spy wrote: Ok i know the guy's name is Alex not Dave i'm sorry i got his name wrong i will edit the updates to avoid confusion. But there's a question i need to ask to Alex WHAT THE FUCK WENT WRONG WITH THIS GAME?!, You where the creative director and Far Cry 4 was a lazy rehash of Far Cry 3 with a bland story that was a good concept from the begining to a waste with horribly done characters that are unlikeable and forgettable have also played other Far Cry games? than just Far Cry 3?. Far Cry is dead alright i doubt there will be a Far Cry 5 in the works without being a rehash of Far Cry 3.

      I think the reason I like far cry 4 is because I never played 3.

      I agree i never played the third game before Far Cry 4's release i did watched some videos of Far Cry 3 most of them where myths & legends videos when Far Cry 4 was released i quickly made the camparison between Far Cry 3 and Far Cry 4.

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    • Raniero R wrote:
      Go make a better game, then.

      Yeah, we all should keep quiet. No one should bash the president who ran down his contry.

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    • It's been a while my opinion is sightly changed but i still have the same opinion as before well i didn't want to update this is just a litte reminder, i still want my Australian 60 dollars back after preordering Far Cry 4 i have never played a game story so lazy done and so horrible the gameplay mechincs are the same as in Far Cry 3. The Far Cry games relied on the terms originality and new to a great extent remember the original Far Cry games they were linear and in 2008 Far Cry 2 was released and did something original it went open world and avoided being a generic FPS series, now with Far Cry 4 it throwed those terms out the window and did what Far Cry 3 did back in 2012 winch the third had again use those terms to a greater extent with a strong story and still it kept the open world i might as well as repeating myself but this was my childhood Far Cry 2 is and still remains one of my favorite games of all time.

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    • Just watched the Far Cry Primal trailer and i have to say i got a lot of hope for this game, i'm glad they decided to cut everyone who worked on Far Cry 4 and made a new team i'm certain they may will make something unique and original i hope so. They might get to work on Far Cry 5 if Primal is a between-in game many believe like Blood Dragon.

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    • What with all the blogging? Am I on Tumblr or what?

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    • 2.12.252.147 wrote:
      What with all the blogging? Am I on Tumblr or what?

      Just replying and updating my rant because it was a little too long to fit for a simple blog post looking back at it i think my rant needs improvements since i actually decided to play the game again and look up some videos of Far Cry 4 to see if i was right about Far Cry 4. (well a quarter half of it) in my opinion Far Cry 4 is forgettable with a horrible story and characters with the same gameplay on the same engine that Far Cry 3 ran on they just put some things in the game just make it look as "new" as possible.

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    • I watched The Black Hokage's video The Truth about Far Cry Primal and maybe i will give Far Cry Primal a miss mainly because again it looked similar to Far Cry 3 and look! there's the grapling hook from Far Cry 4!. I will give them credit for trying to be original for the story i will have to play when it's released but that's a maybe as i stated before.

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    • Hi QWTF, this is only the Farcry Wikia. If you really wanna fancy some ideas out, then I could suggest you try and post this on the Far Cry Ubisoft Forums instead. This be better as a Blog post as well than this spot right here, where as let me show you an example from another Wikia Blog Post Example from Warframe Wikia

      And also, refrain from disrespecting Ubisoft. Look we know they are bad, Rainbox Six Siege is only Mutiplayer and Assassin Creed will never run above 30 FPS on consoles. There are details everyone appears to be aware of, but does Ubisoft want to?

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    • AdmiralRegis wrote:
      Hi QWTF, This is only the Farcry Wikia. If you really wanna fancy some ideas out, then I suggest you post this on Far Cry Ubisoft Forums instead. This be better as a Blog post as well than this spot right here, Let me show you an example from another Wikia Blog Post Example from Warframe Wikia

      And also, refrain from disrespecting Ubisoft. Look we know they are bad, Rainbox Six Siege is only Mutiplayer and Assassin Creed will never run above 30 FPS on consoles.

      Thanks i never know that Far Cry Ubisoft Forums existed you can't really blame me Wikia is usual where i get my information, one note this Blog post was Contructively Criticising Far Cry 4 look my rant isn't the best in the world i do have to admit it need some improvements BUT Quality exists and i DO get that you know Criticism.

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    • No problem, just looking to help. Also, I could say Far Cry 4 was more a story guided game. You complain about the characters personalities, but I believe that might just be how messed up their lives were, therefore, contributing to how crazy everyone in Kyrat was. Just my two cents. Also about Pagan Min and Ajay's relationship, you need to probaly need dig deeper to understand. I do agree the details about the snowy mountains.

      As my work across many Wikias you aren't not the only one out there, many people don't know where eles their problems can be solved and come here. They are just unaware and since we have more information here its more likely to stay in certain places like on Wikias.

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    • AdmiralRegis wrote:
      No problem, just looking to help. Also, I could say Far Cry 4 was more a story guided game. You complain about the characters personalities, but I believe that might just be how messed up their lives were, therefore, contributing to how crazy everyone in Kyrat was. Just my thought and also about the Pagan Min and AJAY RELATIONSSHIP, you need to dig deeper to understand that just like other games. Plus agreed on snow mountains.

      As my work across many Wikias your not the only one, many people don't know where eles their problems can be solved and come here. They are just unaware and since we have so much information here its more likely to stay here while some other Wikias aren't like that, but each is unique.

      Agreed i will publish my improved rant on the Far Cry Forums i did dig deeper into the story and couldn't found a single thing to explain the plot holes but since i did started to play Far Cry 4 again there's more room to remember such as Sabal he's an alright character until at the very end of the game the writers forgot on who Sabal was and decided to made a Betrayal scene without a motive for Sabal destroying his character and contradicting what we about him.

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    • I don't think Far Cry 4 in itself was a bad game. Honestly, it was pretty good in certain areas. I just think it wasn't enough of an improvement over Far Cry 3 (and I originally played FC3 only about two months before FC4 was released so it's not me just remembering FC3 to have been better than what it actually was). The missions weren't as varied as they were in FC3 IMO, and the overall game itself wasn't memorable. I still can memorise at least 75% of the missions in FC3. In FC4, I remember... the Prologue one and the one where Banapur was attacked and the final mission... and that's about it. I only played through FC3 once.

      I don't think the story was bad, it was alright. My only problem with it really was that in the end, none of it matttered. Ajay could've just not have came to Kyrat and nothing would've changed. Give it a few years and Pagan would've either died or got bored and left. What did we actually end up achieving anyway? We let Pagan go or killed him, and most likely killed both Amita and Sabal. We left an already unstable country to become even moreso unstable, but at least we got to put our mother's ashes back where she wanted them, I guess. The game just has this really weird level of dissonance to it. Ajay had no actual motive for the atrocities he commits ("Oh, Pagan's army is so evil and cruel, now Ajay go out and slaughter them to make things better." "Yeah, sure thing random person I just met three seconds ago."). Jason in FC3 was a horrible human being who did terrifying things to anyone who even remotely threatened him, but I always felt compassionate for him despite that because he had a motive - to save his friends (though I disliked all of them except for Liza, at least we were trying to do something good).

      Jason was a massive douchebag I think we can all agree on that, but you cared for him and wanted him to be victorious because he was going up against clearly bad people whose actions were shown in the game, unlike in FC4 where all of the villians are just... never around, and all of the bad things done are committed by nameless Royal Army soldiers* (I'll point out two things here though - unlike the mercenaries and pirates in FC3 who willingly did bad things for money, the enemies in FC4 are Kyrati citizens who are just trying to survive a civil war. Yeah, they're working for Pagan, but who else is trying to instill order? Certainly not the Golden Path. Also, these bad things are never actually committed towards you a majority of the time. They're committed towards nameless NPCS that you neither know nor care about. The closest I got to caring about them was after Banapur was attacked, and that pretty much was it).

      I remember some reviewer pointing out that Ajay's parents sounded a whole lot more interesting than he himself did, and that they'd have preferred to play as them rather than Ajay. And that's a good point, because unlike FC3, nobody on "your (the protaginist's) side" is very interesting. Then again, none of the people on Pagan's side are very interesting either (except for Noore! I actually really like her and her final confrontation  was one of the only points in the game where I actually cared for a character). As someone who enjoys writing and reads a lot of different media, I cannot care for something where there's weak characters, even a video game. And if I don't care, I don't have any initiative or reason myself to feel justified for murdering my way through a game. That's just me though, I know it's not like that for everyone.

      Also I dislike FC4 a lot because of Yuma's presentation as a whole. Her presentation was just... weird, and also kind of demeaning. I know most wouldn't see it as that bad, but really? Yuma, the Lieutenant General of the Royal Guard, is going to fight Ajay, one twenty-something guy who has very little skills other than being a Blood Knight, by... taking her clothes off? Really, Ubisoft? I hope that was some shitty move by some higher power in the Ubisoft offices to try and meet the necessary "sexualised female" quota in today's industry**. Her portrayal in the game really soured an already forgettable experience for me. I mean, Citra in FC3 suffered from this sort of portrayal also, but at least she always had power and was aware of that (and used it in a certain ending). Or maybe it's the fact that we got more than what, two(?) cutscenes with her in the game and actually had some characterisation for Citra.

      *Some of the higher-level Royal Army soldiers in Northern Kyrat are stated to be mercenaries hired by Pagan, but it's never really clearly shown and they look no different to any of the other NPCS so I'm just going to not acknowledge that part.

      **That's not actually a thing. I mean, the quota's not. The unnecessarily-sexualised-female-character part is very much a thing though, sadly.


      Sorry to have taken up so much room on your forum page, just wanted to add my thoughts. For anyone who may possibly respond to this negatively, remember this: opinions are completely subjective and I'm neither claiming you have to agree with mine nor am I desiring that you do!

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    • AdmiralRegis wrote:
      Hi QWTF, This is only the Farcry Wikia. If you really wanna fancy some ideas out, then I suggest you post this on Far Cry Ubisoft Forums instead. This be better as a Blog post as well than this spot right here, Let me show you an example from another Wikia Blog Post Example from Warframe WikiaAnd also, refrain from disrespecting Ubisoft. Look we know they are bad, Rainbox Six Siege is only Mutiplayer and Assassin Creed will never run above 30 FPS on consoles.

      There's never really been any clear set rules for these sorts of posts on this wiki as of yet, mainly because we have a much smaller community here when compared to something like the Assassin's Creed wiki. We should probably organise some sort of guidelines for this thing someday...

      I disagree with the second part though. It's less disrespect and moreso criticism that's being done in this topic. Disrespect would be more along the lines of any given YouTube comment on an Assassin's Creed video towards Ubisoft (which would typically be something like... ubisoft games sukk!!! never buying these shit games again!!!1! assassssins creed shit it isn't good anymore because it's not a cut and paste carbon copy of Assassin's Creed 2!!!!! ubisoft is shit!). Criticism like what's being written on here is more us pointing out that Ubisoft sells multiple games from multiple series with a cut and paste formula on a (usually) yearly basis and the lack of both inspiration and innovation in these games is sad because Ubisoft is made of such a talented staff who could do so much more than make the same game year in year out.

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    • Echoh98 wrote: I don't think Far Cry 4 in itself was a bad game. Honestly, it was pretty good in certain areas. I just think it wasn't enough of an improvement over Far Cry 3 (and I originally played FC3 only about two months before FC4 was released so it's not me just remembering FC3 to have been better than what it actually was). The missions weren't as varied as they were in FC3 IMO, and the overall game itself wasn't memorable. I still can memorise at least 75% of the missions in FC3. In FC4, I remember... the Prologue one and the one where Banapur was attacked and the final mission... and that's about it. I only played through FC3 once. I don't think the story was bad, it was alright. My only problem with it really was that in the end, none of it matttered. Ajay could've just not have came to Kyrat and nothing would've changed. Give it a few years and Pagan would've either died or got bored and left. What did we actually end up achieving anyway? We let Pagan go or killed him, and most likely killed both Amita and Sabal. We left an already unstable country to become even moreso unstable, but at least we got to put our mother's ashes back where she wanted them, I guess. The game just has this really weird level of dissonance to it. Ajay had no actual motive for the atrocities he commits ("Oh, Pagan's army is so evil and cruel, now Ajay go out and slaughter them to make things better." "Yeah, sure thing random person I just met three seconds ago."). Jason in FC3 was a horrible human being who did terrifying things to anyone who even remotely threatened him, but I always felt compassionate for him despite that because he had a motive - to save his friends (though I disliked all of them except for Liza, at least we were trying to do something good). Jason was a massive douchebag I think we can all agree on that, but you cared for him and wanted him to be victorious because he was going up against clearly bad people whose actions were shown in the game, unlike in FC4 where all of the villians are just... never around, and all of the bad things done are committed by nameless Royal Army soldiers* (I'll point out two things here though - unlike the mercenaries and pirates in FC3 who willingly did bad things for money, the enemies in FC4 are Kyrati citizens who are just trying to survive a civil war. Yeah, they're working for Pagan, but who else is trying to instill order? Certainly not the Golden Path. Also, these bad things are never actually committed towards you a majority of the time. They're committed towards nameless NPCS that you neither know nor care about. The closest I got to caring about them was after Banapur was attacked, and that pretty much was it). I remember some reviewer pointing out that Ajay's parents sounded a whole lot more interesting than he himself did, and that they'd have preferred to play as them rather than Ajay. And that's a good point, because unlike FC3, nobody on "your (the protaginist's) side" is very interesting. Then again, none of the people on Pagan's side are very interesting either (except for Noore! I actually really like her and her final confrontation  was one of the only points in the game where I actually cared for a character). As someone who enjoys writing and reads a lot of different media, I cannot care for something where there's weak characters, even a video game. And if I don't care, I don't have any initiative or reason myself to feel justified for murdering my way through a game. That's just me though, I know it's not like that for everyone. Also I dislike FC4 a lot because of Yuma's presentation as a whole. Her presentation was just... weird, and also kind of demeaning. I know most wouldn't see it as that bad, but really? Yuma, the Lieutenant General of the Royal Guard, is going to fight Ajay, one twenty-something guy who has very little skills other than being a Blood Knight, by... taking her clothes off? Really, Ubisoft? I hope that was some shitty move by some higher power in the Ubisoft offices to try and meet the necessary "sexualised female" quota in today's industry**. Her portrayal in the game really soured an already forgettable experience for me. I mean, Citra in FC3 suffered from this sort of portrayal also, but at least she always had power and was aware of that (and used it in a certain ending). Or maybe it's the fact that we got more than what, two(?) cutscenes with her in the game and actually had some characterisation for Citra. *Some of the higher-level Royal Army soldiers in Northern Kyrat are stated to be mercenaries hired by Pagan, but it's never really clearly shown and they look no different to any of the other NPCS so I'm just going to not acknowledge that part. **That's not actually a thing. I mean, the quota's not. The unnecessarily-sexualised-female-character part is very much a thing though, sadly. Sorry to have taken up so much room on your forum page, just wanted to add my thoughts. For anyone who may possibly respond to this negatively, remember this: opinions are completely subjective and I'm neither claiming you have to agree with mine nor am I desiring that you do!.

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      About Noore in the final scene you have two choices kill her or let her commit suicide, two choices that are the same damn thing so what's the point of having choices when they're the same?. Also if you kill innocent civilians you lose karma yet the game doesn't punish you for doing it let's take a look at The Saboteur one of the last games made by Pandemic Studios at least that game punish you for killing civilians by disabling Garages or sending hostile resistence after you i think that would have made Far Cry 4 a little bit more realistic.

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    • Echoh98 wrote:

      I disagree with the second part though. It's less disrespect and moreso criticism that's being done in this topic.

      Your correct about that. My mindset was set on what was stuck on that as Ubisoft indeed was not up to their standards as usual. I know the developers have some of the most creative ideas and I do apologize to QWTF if it was more critcism.

      My ideas expressed are as said. For example Assassin's Creed Unity did not fair as well as I hoped for. I do agree that the story of Far Cry 4 was weird, but it was always up to you to make the choices. Most of it doesn't make sense is the problem and if there were secrets to lore I still be damned.

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    • AdmiralRegis wrote:
      Echoh98 wrote:

      I disagree with the second part though. It's less disrespect and moreso criticism that's being done in this topic.

      Your correct about that. My mindset was set on what was stuck on that as Ubisoft indeed was not up to their standards as usual. I know the developers have some of the most creative ideas and I do apologize to QWTF if it was more critcism.

      My ideas expressed are as said. For example Assassin's Creed Unity did not fair as well as I hoped for. I do agree that the story of Far Cry 4 was weird, but it was always up to you to make the choices. Most of it doesn't make sense is the problem and if there were secrets to lore I still be damned.

      Same thing, i'm still trying to figure out on what went wrong with the writers of Far Cry 4.

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    • One more thing, We don't anything about the characters such as Sabal we don't know his past  that Royal Army emblem of a crown on his jacket may suggest that he used to work for the Royal Army until he deflected to The Golden Path, it could be something the Developers where planning to do with his character where something would reveal that he was actually working for The Royal Army to further sent The Golden Path into defeat after this Ajay must spend the next act of game hunting Sabal down but the Developers scrapped it and left the crown in the game. That's just speculation but i think it would made the game better in my opinion.

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    • Your rant sounds like you put zero thought into any of it, or lack any sort of education.

      1) What’s wrong with her going to dinner at Pagan's place? Perhaps she thought she could talk some sense into him, or appeal to him to end the civil war peacefully, or refrain from committing crimes. I'm sure plenty of Chinese dignitaries have sat down with Kim Jong-Un to try and convince him to stop provoking the US over the past couple of years. And I know the UN has sent people to North Korea, and it wouldn't surprise me if they sat down with him. Plenty of important people throughout history the world over have discussed treaties, peace and war over dinner or a drink. It wouldn't surprise me for someone neutral or standing for human rights to arrange a meeting with a dictator to appeal for a peaceful resolution. Nothing wrong with that storyline.

      2) I believe when they said she was trying to bring Kyrat into the 21st century, they were talking about her take on the religious issue. She is completely against the religion in the country, and her opinion on Bhadra is definitely more modern. Just look at the difference between Europe, a region where religion isn't the main facet of society, and the Middle East, a region where religion is supreme. One region is in the 21st century, the other isn't. For a country to enter the 21st century, and become an educated, intelligent member of society, contributing to our knowledge and development, they need to stop believing fanatically in religion. And making the country a drug state would do a lot to bring it into the 21st century. It costs a lot to modernise a country, even if it’s small. You need water accessible to all, internet, roads, infrastructure, a government, a military etc. It would cost billions. So how do you fund it? The drugs are already in the country, albeit not in such a large prevalence. And drugs rake in a large amount of money. Turning Kyrat into a drug state would probably get her the money quicker than anything else. Look at all the tribal, clan and group warfare in Africa. A lot of the warlords traffic drugs in order to fund their group. Those that do typically have more soldiers, better soldiers, and can run their area better and provide for the citizens. Drugs are a quick and easy source of a lot of money, and most dictators or warlords use them as a form of funding.

      3) Have you even played the game? Pagan DID know that Ajay was coming. Why else would a dictator go out of his way, to fly his helicopter to a rundown trail, simply over a bus full of locals, tourists and rebels, at the exact time they arrived at the checkpoint? Why would he then get angry at the guard over shooting the bus up, unless he knew there was someone important on board? Why would he then say there was a silver lining because Ajay was alive? He did only recognise him later, but that’s because he didn't know what he looked like, and recognised his inherited facial features. He knew he was on the bus, and that’s why he wanted it stopped, but only recognised Ajay later. How you couldn't grasp something as obvious as this is astonishing. Even if that wasn't the case, which it is, there are plenty of reasons to stop the bus. Passport and ID checks, checking for Rebels trying to smuggle something. Plenty of third world countries have checkpoints at borders or strategic locations, particularly when fighting an insurgency. 

      4) Why is it so hard to think about why Darpan is a spy? Perhaps he lives in Northern Kyrat and passes information about what’s happening to Amita and Sabal. Maybe they send him to infiltrate locations as a local or trader to get information. The Wiki says he smuggles items into the country for the Golden Path. He likely found out through government sources that Ajay was coming, just like Pagan, and presented himself as a fake tour guide to take him to the Golden Path, because he wasn't going to find them on his own.

      5) Maybe he could only afford the helicopters. Most dictators spend most of their money on themselves. Besides, Kyrat isn't suited to tanks. Most of the roads couldn't handle them, plus the mountainous terrain and trees would limit their range. And tanks are better suited for conventional warfare, not fighting guerrillas. A few RPG rounds could take out a tank easily. Few real life countries similar to Kyrat have tanks. And I don't think Jets would be useful either. Not only are they not suited for guerrilla warfare as well, but I don't think Kyrat's airport could take jets. I haven't played much of the game yet so haven't seen it, but it looks like it could only take a small turbo-prop plane. A jet wouldn't be able to land and take off there without assistance. When dealing with an insurgency, helicopters and ground troops would be your best asset. He could have bought some APC's, or some form of armoured land vehicle.

      6) Maybe people don't question Amita because they think she could solve Kyrats problems better than Sabal. The Golden Path probably consists of some who believe in Amita over Sabal, and some that believe in Sabal over Amita. I guarantee that had the civil war gone on without Ajay's assistance, there would have been a war between Sabal and Amita before it ended.

      7) Most of Kyrat barely has running water and electricity. Do you really think the average citizen has internet? Use your brain for once. Pagan and high up members of the government likely have internet access. Sabal and Amita would probably have some as well, even if it was a solitary laptop with satellite connection in Banapur. Pagan would probably be the only one with a proper internet connection. We do know the Kyrati Films lady has internet to upload the videos. That would add credence to the theory that the Golden Path has internet access at Banapur, but she is richer than the average citizen.

      8) Sabal definitely has a motive for killing the people at the end. I haven't played that far myself yet, and have only seen the video a long time ago, but he was either killing citizens or Golden Path members. If the citizens supported Pagan, they are a threat to the new government, and would have to be killed just like the government. And if they were Golden Path members who supported Amita over Sabal (which I think was the case), then they would also pose a threat to his government, seeing as they wouldn't agree with how he ran the country, and would be angry at Amitas death, possibly sparking another civil war.

      9) In regards to Echoh's comment, have you not considered that Ajay cares about the people of Kyrat and doesn't like seeing them oppressed and tortured while their leaders live it up. Your mind-set of "Why should I get involved" is extremely common nowadays and is why most countries don't intervene in civil wars. But some people actually care about the rights of innocent people, and go to these places to help, like the Kurdish forces fighting ISIS. They have been bolstered by people from Europe, America, mercenary groups and so on. Some people care about stopping tyrannical dictators. Some people don't care whether the atrocities are committed against them or other people. Some people are self-less in their intentions. And what evidence do you have to suggest the Golden Path isn't trying to restore order. Typically in a civil war that would come after, but nothing in the game suggested otherwise, except Amitas behaviour at the end. Even if they weren't, at least they weren't torturing their citizens.

       


      Your rant honestly sounds like you put zero thought into what you were typing. I haven't even played past the third campaign mission yet, but I know more about the storyline than you. Turn your brain on and think for a few seconds. You'll be surprised. Anyway, just stopping by. I couldn't let such misinformation go uncorrected.

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    • Randomthrowaway wrote:

      Your rant sounds like you put zero thought into any of it, or lack any sort of education.

      1) What’s wrong with her going to dinner at Pagan's place? Perhaps she thought she could talk some sense into him, or appeal to him to end the civil war peacefully, or refrain from committing crimes. I'm sure plenty of Chinese dignitaries have sat down with Kim Jong-Un to try and convince him to stop provoking the US over the past couple of years. And I know the UN has sent people to North Korea, and it wouldn't surprise me if they sat down with him. Plenty of important people throughout history the world over have discussed treaties, peace and war over dinner or a drink. It wouldn't surprise me for someone neutral or standing for human rights to arrange a meeting with a dictator to appeal for a peaceful resolution. Nothing wrong with that storyline.

      2) I believe when they said she was trying to bring Kyrat into the 21st century, they were talking about her take on the religious issue. She is completely against the religion in the country, and her opinion on Bhadra is definitely more modern. Just look at the difference between Europe, a region where religion isn't the main facet of society, and the Middle East, a region where religion is supreme. One region is in the 21st century, the other isn't. For a country to enter the 21st century, and become an educated, intelligent member of society, contributing to our knowledge and development, they need to stop believing fanatically in religion. And making the country a drug state would do a lot to bring it into the 21st century. It costs a lot to modernise a country, even if it’s small. You need water accessible to all, internet, roads, infrastructure, a government, a military etc. It would cost billions. So how do you fund it? The drugs are already in the country, albeit not in such a large prevalence. And drugs rake in a large amount of money. Turning Kyrat into a drug state would probably get her the money quicker than anything else. Look at all the tribal, clan and group warfare in Africa. A lot of the warlords traffic drugs in order to fund their group. Those that do typically have more soldiers, better soldiers, and can run their area better and provide for the citizens. Drugs are a quick and easy source of a lot of money, and most dictators or warlords use them as a form of funding.

      3) Have you even played the game? Pagan DID know that Ajay was coming. Why else would a dictator go out of his way, to fly his helicopter to a rundown trail, simply over a bus full of locals, tourists and rebels, at the exact time they arrived at the checkpoint? Why would he then get angry at the guard over shooting the bus up, unless he knew there was someone important on board? Why would he then say there was a silver lining because Ajay was alive? He did only recognise him later, but that’s because he didn't know what he looked like, and recognised his inherited facial features. He knew he was on the bus, and that’s why he wanted it stopped, but only recognised Ajay later. How you couldn't grasp something as obvious as this is astonishing. Even if that wasn't the case, which it is, there are plenty of reasons to stop the bus. Passport and ID checks, checking for Rebels trying to smuggle something. Plenty of third world countries have checkpoints at borders or strategic locations, particularly when fighting an insurgency. 

      4) Why is it so hard to think about why Darpan is a spy? Perhaps he lives in Northern Kyrat and passes information about what’s happening to Amita and Sabal. Maybe they send him to infiltrate locations as a local or trader to get information. The Wiki says he smuggles items into the country for the Golden Path. He likely found out through government sources that Ajay was coming, just like Pagan, and presented himself as a fake tour guide to take him to the Golden Path, because he wasn't going to find them on his own.

      5) Maybe he could only afford the helicopters. Most dictators spend most of their money on themselves. Besides, Kyrat isn't suited to tanks. Most of the roads couldn't handle them, plus the mountainous terrain and trees would limit their range. And tanks are better suited for conventional warfare, not fighting guerrillas. A few RPG rounds could take out a tank easily. Few real life countries similar to Kyrat have tanks. And I don't think Jets would be useful either. Not only are they not suited for guerrilla warfare as well, but I don't think Kyrat's airport could take jets. I haven't played much of the game yet so haven't seen it, but it looks like it could only take a small turbo-prop plane. A jet wouldn't be able to land and take off there without assistance. When dealing with an insurgency, helicopters and ground troops would be your best asset. He could have bought some APC's, or some form of armoured land vehicle.

      6) Maybe people don't question Amita because they think she could solve Kyrats problems better than Sabal. The Golden Path probably consists of some who believe in Amita over Sabal, and some that believe in Sabal over Amita. I guarantee that had the civil war gone on without Ajay's assistance, there would have been a war between Sabal and Amita before it ended.

      7) Most of Kyrat barely has running water and electricity. Do you really think the average citizen has internet? Use your brain for once. Pagan and high up members of the government likely have internet access. Sabal and Amita would probably have some as well, even if it was a solitary laptop with satellite connection in Banapur. Pagan would probably be the only one with a proper internet connection. We do know the Kyrati Films lady has internet to upload the videos. That would add credence to the theory that the Golden Path has internet access at Banapur, but she is richer than the average citizen.

      8) Sabal definitely has a motive for killing the people at the end. I haven't played that far myself yet, and have only seen the video a long time ago, but he was either killing citizens or Golden Path members. If the citizens supported Pagan, they are a threat to the new government, and would have to be killed just like the government. And if they were Golden Path members who supported Amita over Sabal (which I think was the case), then they would also pose a threat to his government, seeing as they wouldn't agree with how he ran the country, and would be angry at Amitas death, possibly sparking another civil war.

      9) In regards to Echoh's comment, have you not considered that Ajay cares about the people of Kyrat and doesn't like seeing them oppressed and tortured while their leaders live it up. Your mind-set of "Why should I get involved" is extremely common nowadays and is why most countries don't intervene in civil wars. But some people actually care about the rights of innocent people, and go to these places to help, like the Kurdish forces fighting ISIS. They have been bolstered by people from Europe, America, mercenary groups and so on. Some people care about stopping tyrannical dictators. Some people don't care whether the atrocities are committed against them or other people. Some people are self-less in their intentions. And what evidence do you have to suggest the Golden Path isn't trying to restore order. Typically in a civil war that would come after, but nothing in the game suggested otherwise, except Amitas behaviour at the end. Even if they weren't, at least they weren't torturing their citizens.

       


      Your rant honestly sounds like you put zero thought into what you were typing. I haven't even played past the third campaign mission yet, but I know more about the storyline than you. Turn your brain on and think for a few seconds. You'll be surprised. Anyway, just stopping by. I couldn't let such misinformation go uncorrected.

      Finally some proper criticism but i think you should have read the replies first because i thought my rant was disjointed and needed some improving since when i first posted this i was some dumb 14 year old who just turned 15 that got into criticism for the first time so i was like Roger Ebert when he got into Film Criticism for the first time, that was mainly because i forgot most of the story and i was trying to remember it because Far Cry 4 was one of the most forgettable games i ever played and it was not only me but Ecoch98 had the same problem she couldn't remember the mid missions only just the begining and the end.



      I have watched others criticism on the characters and they say that the characters where not interesting enough especially Darpan he was just there for a few minutes making him a throw away character at least they should have made standalone DLC that takes 13 years before Far Cry 4 and explain his character anyway enough with Plus-One.


      Oh one more thing the choices are the same or similar Noore's was the same result Amita and Sabal's where similar and Pagan Min's was the only choices that where different, oh and these choices don't effect the game world.


      I'm planning to make an improved rant on Far Cry 4 on Youtube that's until i have the money for editing software so stay tuned for that.

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    • I been though a shit show lately with Wikia, someone log me out and forgot my password since i never log out so i clicked "Forgot your password?" and got temporary password, the password was long so i copy and paste but it took me to Special Login and said the password was incorrect so i typed in manually and same thing so i reported it to Wikia and i spend 9 days trying to resolve it.

      Finally i did and luckily i didn't miss any messages but finally i can calm down for once.

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    • I'm a 46 yr young gamer (All ya's will be there some day). I had 72 games on the Atari 2600 and over 60 games on the Nintendo 64. I've owned almost every system out there, including the  Panasonic 3DO. For an old guy, I've logged more hours of gameplay than any 25 yr old. I know a little bit about what I'm talking about. 

      I like the FC series and I like FC4. We do need to remember it's a game, it's fantasy so to expect it to play out like "real life" events is to me, too high an expectation in the gaming world.

      With that said, here are a few things I would like to see changed or improved upon for FC5 if there is one.

      1) Less animal attacks. Holy crap, you can't walk or drive 1 mile in any direction without some sort of animal attacking you or a group of seemingly a constant number of helpless people. There are more eagle attacks to the point it's both annoying and comical at the same time. I live in bald eagle country, never seen nor heard of an attack on a human. Too many animals with human blood lust. Not realistic. Very annoying to gameplay. Tone it down.

      2) There is way too much money available in the game. Way to easy to come by. Searching 30,000 chests and bodies becomes unecessary and a waste of time. Looting chests or bodies in front of their owners and family members with no repercussions is odd as well. You'd think someone would grumble if you just pick pocketed their best friend that was just gunned down in the road. You never go without in the game. You are never in need of funds. There is never a time where you need to spend wisely. Just spend it when you get it or your wallet becomes stuffed to the point the seams burst.

      3) Weapons are way to easy to come by through purchase. I would rather see weapons need to be earned through missions and difficult tasks as opposed to hopping to the top a some Bell Towers. It should be much more difficult to attain the Buzzsaw. To me, once you have the Buzzsaw, Canon, RPG7 and Bow, you are totally invincible. Nothing can stop you from that point on and its way to easy to get that weapon load out. You should have to suffer with low funds, the MarkIV and a dull knife for more than 30 seconds in the game.

      4) It is too easy to draw enemies out of position with a simple stone throw. I can clear our most strong holds entirely by tossing a few rocks without stepping 1 foot inside it's walls., making the need to disable alarms obsolete. Drawing a couple drunken enemies from their posts with a stone is cool, but the entire squad? Come on now.

      5) You should die when you fly off the ATV at 80 mph after hitting a tree. Enough said.

      6) Bell Towers should be much harder to liberate considering their reward of map view and weaponary. They should be more heavily guarded and you should never have the ability to liberate them with the Buzzer. You can liberate all Bell Towers with the Buzzer in 30 minutes of gameplay. Bah! Each Bell Tower should become harder and harder to liberate as each previous one falls to the Golden Path.

      Other than these few hiccups, FC4 is an excellent game! Even for us "old" guys....don't laugh, you'll be there someday! HA!

      Rock on!

      Big AL

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    • GUPPYCRUSHER wrote:
      I'm a 46 yr young gamer (All ya's will be there some day). I had 72 games on the Atari 2600 and over 60 games on the Nintendo 64. I've owned almost every system out there, including the  Panasonic 3DO. For an old guy, I've logged more hours of gameplay than any 25 yr old. I know a little bit about what I'm talking about. 

      I like the FC series and I like FC4. We do need to remember it's a game, it's fantasy so to expect it to play out like "real life" events is to me, too high an expectation in the gaming world.

      With that said, here are a few things I would like to see changed or improved upon for FC5 if there is one.

      1) Less animal attacks. Holy crap, you can't walk or drive 1 mile in any direction without some sort of animal attacking you or a group of seemingly a constant number of helpless people. There are more eagle attacks to the point it's both annoying and comical at the same time. I live in bald eagle country, never seen nor heard of an attack on a human. Too many animals with human blood lust. Not realistic. Very annoying to gameplay. Tone it down.

      2) There is way too much money available in the game. Way to easy to come by. Searching 30,000 chests and bodies becomes unecessary and a waste of time. Looting chests or bodies in front of their owners and family members with no repercussions is odd as well. You'd think someone would grumble if you just pick pocketed their best friend that was just gunned down in the road. You never go without in the game. You are never in need of funds. There is never a time where you need to spend wisely. Just spend it when you get it or your wallet becomes stuffed to the point the seams burst.

      3) Weapons are way to easy to come by through purchase. I would rather see weapons need to be earned through missions and difficult tasks as opposed to hopping to the top a some Bell Towers. It should be much more difficult to attain the Buzzsaw. To me, once you have the Buzzsaw, Canon, RPG7 and Bow, you are totally invincible. Nothing can stop you from that point on and its way to easy to get that weapon load out. You should have to suffer with low funds, the MarkIV and a dull knife for more than 30 seconds in the game.

      4) It is too easy to draw enemies out of position with a simple stone throw. I can clear our most strong holds entirely by tossing a few rocks without stepping 1 foot inside it's walls., making the need to disable alarms obsolete. Drawing a couple drunken enemies from their posts with a stone is cool, but the entire squad? Come on now.

      5) You should die when you fly off the ATV at 80 mph after hitting a tree. Enough said.

      6) Bell Towers should be much harder to liberate considering their reward of map view and weaponary. They should be more heavily guarded and you should never have the ability to liberate them with the Buzzer. You can liberate all Bell Towers with the Buzzer in 30 minutes of gameplay. Bah! Each Bell Tower should become harder and harder to liberate as each previous one falls to the Golden Path.

      Other than these few hiccups, FC4 is an excellent game! Even for us "old" guys....don't laugh, you'll be there someday! HA!

      Rock on!

      Big AL

      Thank you for commenting!, I do agree, they where too many animal attacks, forgot to mention Far Cry 4 is ripping off Far Cry 2, it's so obivious that don't have to tell you.

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    • And Far Cry Primal... Another freakin' reskin. Not buying it

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    • Master of the Night wrote:
      And Far Cry Primal... Another freakin' reskin. Not buying it

      I have the same reason here.

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    • Be happy that Dinosaur ain't in Far Cry 4, It would be such idiotic to involve Dinos in "today games" it was 2000's stuff. If Far Cry 6 should contain Dinosaurs that "all players are wanting" then I personally think it should be DLC, then I decide if I want them or not.

      These who says it is reskin, it kind of but then not, becuase every models has been made from the beginning of any 3D models, even the weapons.

      It is just sad that Royal Guards couldnt keep their Beta colors like the soldier who get stapped by the golden pen of Pagan Min, I really like that uniform it is different to th uniforms of Royal Army. Then it could be like Far Cry 3 that some Assaulters, Chargers and Berserkers wears Beret or Bandana and then others wears Cap or Helmet or just nothing, showing their hair.

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    • QWTF spy wrote:
      GUPPYCRUSHER wrote:
      I'm a 46 yr young gamer (All ya's will be there some day). I had 72 games on the Atari 2600 and over 60 games on the Nintendo 64. I've owned almost every system out there, including the  Panasonic 3DO. For an old guy, I've logged more hours of gameplay than any 25 yr old. I know a little bit about what I'm talking about. 

      I like the FC series and I like FC4. We do need to remember it's a game, it's fantasy so to expect it to play out like "real life" events is to me, too high an expectation in the gaming world.

      With that said, here are a few things I would like to see changed or improved upon for FC5 if there is one.

      1) Less animal attacks. Holy crap, you can't walk or drive 1 mile in any direction without some sort of animal attacking you or a group of seemingly a constant number of helpless people. There are more eagle attacks to the point it's both annoying and comical at the same time. I live in bald eagle country, never seen nor heard of an attack on a human. Too many animals with human blood lust. Not realistic. Very annoying to gameplay. Tone it down.

      2) There is way too much money available in the game. Way to easy to come by. Searching 30,000 chests and bodies becomes unecessary and a waste of time. Looting chests or bodies in front of their owners and family members with no repercussions is odd as well. You'd think someone would grumble if you just pick pocketed their best friend that was just gunned down in the road. You never go without in the game. You are never in need of funds. There is never a time where you need to spend wisely. Just spend it when you get it or your wallet becomes stuffed to the point the seams burst.

      3) Weapons are way to easy to come by through purchase. I would rather see weapons need to be earned through missions and difficult tasks as opposed to hopping to the top a some Bell Towers. It should be much more difficult to attain the Buzzsaw. To me, once you have the Buzzsaw, Canon, RPG7 and Bow, you are totally invincible. Nothing can stop you from that point on and its way to easy to get that weapon load out. You should have to suffer with low funds, the MarkIV and a dull knife for more than 30 seconds in the game.

      4) It is too easy to draw enemies out of position with a simple stone throw. I can clear our most strong holds entirely by tossing a few rocks without stepping 1 foot inside it's walls., making the need to disable alarms obsolete. Drawing a couple drunken enemies from their posts with a stone is cool, but the entire squad? Come on now.

      5) You should die when you fly off the ATV at 80 mph after hitting a tree. Enough said.

      6) Bell Towers should be much harder to liberate considering their reward of map view and weaponary. They should be more heavily guarded and you should never have the ability to liberate them with the Buzzer. You can liberate all Bell Towers with the Buzzer in 30 minutes of gameplay. Bah! Each Bell Tower should become harder and harder to liberate as each previous one falls to the Golden Path.

      Other than these few hiccups, FC4 is an excellent game! Even for us "old" guys....don't laugh, you'll be there someday! HA!

      Rock on!

      Big AL

      Thank you for commenting!, I do agree, they where too many animal attacks, forgot to mention Far Cry 4 is ripping off Far Cry 2, it's so obivious that don't have to tell you.

      Well both are developed by Ubisoft. But 4 is far better than 2 in what you are able to do. In 2 you are still locked in ways where to find diamonds, you are not allowed to think, you HAVE to use the ways THEY made. in 4 you would just take a Gyrocopter. also the map in Far Cry 4 are more open than in Far Cry 2 also the Ai Enemies in Far Cry 4 are able to do the same as you, like if thier cars are damaged with black smoke, they cant drive 110mph after your full repaired car that only drives 80mph, than in 2 and then not even point gun at you but still hit you.

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    • if you dont like the game go and make a better one instead of ranting about the ones you hate...

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    • QWTF spy wrote:
      Raniero R wrote:
      Go make a better game, then. :^)
      Yeah i would have made a better game than Far Cry 4.

      I doubt it. Your constant ranting about flaws would probably drive your employees away and delay the game severely.

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    • 108.203.204.230 wrote:
      QWTF spy wrote: Yeah, I would have made a better game than Far Cry 4.
      I doubt it. Your constant ranting about flaws would probably drive your employees away and delay the game severely.

      Well, we can at least fix those flaws. God, I haven't been to this thread in a year now but who gives a shit?

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    • If you don't like the game then don't like it don't go bitching about it on a wiki article because to be honest half these people come on here for an ACTUAL reveiw of the game. And why after a year? If you are going ot hate something hat it, don't get your panties in a twist about it
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    • Then you can learn how to code and program and animate every little tiny thign down to the insects and mosquitoes and go make a game. Then return back here and aprreciate the shit the programers go through to get backlash by a 9 year old playing on his mommy's computer buying shit with her credit card. How many cheeto crumbs and sticky diet coke spill are there on your desk. In your dimmly lit basement.

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    • Fuck head

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    • 64.18.115.57 wrote: Then you can learn how to code and program and animate every little tiny thign down to the insects and mosquitoes and go make a game. Then return back here and aprreciate the shit the programers go through to get backlash by a 9 year old playing on his mommy's computer buying shit with her credit card. How many cheeto crumbs and sticky diet coke spill are there on your desk. In your dimmly lit basement.

      Jesus Christ your a fucking tool

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    • I doubt that you could make a better game, you don't even know how to do it.

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    • Wikiawrider wrote: I doubt that you could make a better game, you don't even know how to do it.

      Was that to me? If so I couldn’t agree more, i’m Just saying that this guys being a dick. If you weren’t then I agree

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    • Would just like to point out that even though I have a Bachelor's Degree in Game Design, there's a reason even I don't want to work professionally in that field.

      Slave labor would be putting it lightly in a lot of the AAA development spheres.

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    • JVanover92 wrote: Would just like to point out that even though I have a Bachelor's Degree in Game Design, there's a reason even I don't want to work professionally in that field.

      Slave labor would be putting it lightly in a lot of the AAA development spheres.

      That is honestly true

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    • A FANDOM user
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